Out of Patients EP410: D.A.M.M. Good Trouble: Ann Marie Morse
Dr. Anne Marie Morse showed up to the studio like she was headlining her own off-Broadway neurology musical—and I mean that as a compliment. She’s a pediatric neurologist, sleep medicine badass, narcolepsy whisperer, and founder of DAMM Good Sleep. She's also a full-throttle Italian Jersey girl who speaks faster than I do and makes more sense doing it.
I wanted her on *Out of Patients* because sleep is still treated like an optional feature in our healthcare system. Like power windows. And nobody calls out the BS louder—or funnier—than she does. We talked apnea, naps, co-sleeping, melatonin abuse, and why “sleep hygiene” is the flossing advice of neurology. Also: airport nap pods, Carl Sagan, the DeLorean, and why LEGO can go screw for creating foot torture disguised as a toy.
She said it best: sleep isn’t a side effect of living. It’s the main character.
If you think feeling tired all the time is normal, you’re wrong. If your doctor gave you three minutes of advice and a brochure, they’re wrong. If your mattress is older than your car, you’re in trouble.
This episode is funny, raw, and full of truth bombs. Listen while awake.
Matthew Zachary
Producer
Dubbed "The People's Voice in Healthcare" by People Magazine, Matthew Zachary turned a brain cancer diagnosis at 21 into a global movement for patient empowerment. He beat the odds and became a powerhouse advocate for patient rights, giving a voice to millions overlooked by traditional healthcare.
As the founder of Stupid Cancer, he launched the young adult cancer movement, pioneering a new era of patient advocacy. In 2007, he created The Stupid Cancer Show—the first-ever healthcare talk radio show before podcasts were even a thing—building a global community for cancer survivors.
His groundbreaking podcast Out of Patients and the award-winning documentary The Cancer Mavericks cemented him as the "Podfather of Healthcare" and one of the most trusted, irreverent voices in the industry.
Now, as Principal of Matthew Zachary Worldwide, he leads a media, consulting, and think tank agency disrupting healthcare marketing with bold, empathy-driven storytelling. His work spans digital health, life sciences, entertainment, and nonprofit advocacy—challenging the system, amplifying patient voices, and driving real change.
With millions of downloads, hundreds of keynotes, and a sharp GenX edge that blends wit with wisdom, Matthew empowers patients to reclaim their stories while helping organizations embrace authentic, lived-experience storytelling.
Matthew is also... still standing.
Out of Patients EP409: The Elastic Life of Gigi Robinson
