Episodes

Jan. 26, 2026

Lead (Poisoning), Laugh, Love with Shannon Burkett

Shannon Burkett has lived about six lives. Broadway actor. SNL alum. Nurse. Filmmaker. Advocate. Cancer survivor. And the kind of person who makes you question what you’ve done with your day. She wrote and produced My Vagina ...
Jan. 19, 2026

[WALK IT OFF EP3] CHRONIC ZEN

Michael Kramer was 19 when cancer ambushed his life. He went from surfing Florida beaches to chemo, radiation, and a bone marrow transplant that left him alive but carrying a chronic disease. He had necrosis in his knees and ...
Jan. 12, 2026

[WALK IT OFF EP1] ROCKS NEED ROCKS

Daniel Garza had momentum. Acting roles, directing gigs, national tours lined up. Then anal cancer stopped everything. Radiation wrecked his body, stripped him of control, and left him in diapers, staring down despair. His pa...
Jan. 5, 2026

[WALK IT OFF EP1] MAN UP

Trevor Maxwell lived the archetype of masculinity in rural Maine. Big, strong, splitting wood, raising kids, and carrying the load. Then cancer ripped that script apart. In 2018 he was bedridden, emasculated, ashamed, and con...
Dec. 29, 2025

Koby & Hannah's 2025 Holiday Podcast Spectacular

The most anticipated annual tradition on Out of Patients returns with the 2025 Holiday Podcast Spectacular starring Matthew's twins Koby and Hannah. Now 15 and a half and deep into sophomore year, the twins deliver another un...
Dec. 22, 2025

Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow: Jason Gilley

Jason Gilley walked into adulthood with a fastball, a college roster spot, and a head of curls that deserved its own agent. Cancer crashed that party and took him on a tour of chemo chairs, pediatric wards, metal taste, numb ...
Dec. 17, 2025

Plan B

Dr. Marissa Russo trained to become a cancer biologist. She spent four years studying one of the deadliest brain tumors in adults and built her entire research career around a simple, urgent goal: open her own lab and improve...
Dec. 15, 2025

Otherwise Healthy with Scott Capozza

Scott Capozza and I could have been cloned in a bad lab experiment. Both diagnosed with cancer in our early twenties. Both raised on dial-up and mixtapes. Both now boy-girl twin dads with speech-therapist wives and a lifelong...
Dec. 8, 2025

Doctor No More: MaryAnn Wilbur

Dr. MaryAnn Wilbur trained her whole life to care for patients, then left medicine behind when it became a machine that punished empathy and rewarded throughput. She didn’t burn out. She got out. A gynecologic oncologist, pub...
Dec. 3, 2025

Standard Deviation EP5: Damage Done

Episode 5 of Standard Deviation with Oliver Bogler on the Out of Patients podcast feed pulls you straight into the story of Dr Ethan Moitra, a psychologist who fights for LGBTQ mental health while the system throws every obst...
Dec. 1, 2025

The Good Cancer Club Sucks: Chelsea J. Smith

Chelsea J. Smith walks into a studio and suddenly I feel like a smurf. She’s six-foot-three of sharp humor, dancer’s poise, and radioactive charm. A working actor and thyroid cancer survivor, Chelsea is the kind of guest who ...
Nov. 24, 2025

The Nicest Bus in Cancer: Julia Stalder

When Julia Stalder heard the words ductal carcinoma in situ, she was told she had the “best kind of breast cancer.” Which is like saying you got hit by the nicest bus. Julia’s a lawyer turned mediator who now runs DCIS Unders...
Nov. 19, 2025

Standard Deviation EP4: The Gamble

Dr. Rachel Gatlin entered neuroscience with curiosity and optimism. Then came chaos. She started her PhD at the University of Utah in March 2020—right as the world shut down. Her lab barely existed. Her advisor was on leave. ...
Nov. 17, 2025

Reenactments, Rants, and Really F*cked Up Insurance

EPISODE DESCRIPTION Before she was raising millions to preserve fertility for cancer patients, Tracy Weiss was filming reenactments in her apartment for the Maury Povich Show using her grandmother’s china. Her origin story in...
Nov. 10, 2025

Oy Vey! It's Libby Amber Shayo

EPISODE DESCRIPTION: Libby Amber Shayo didn’t just survive the pandemic—she branded it. Armed with a bun, a New York accent, and enough generational trauma to sell out a two-drink-minimum crowd, she turned her Jewish mom impr...
Nov. 5, 2025

Standard Deviation EP3: The Weight

When the system kills a $2.4 million study on Black maternal health with one Friday afternoon email, the message is loud and clear: stop asking questions that make power uncomfortable. Dr. Jaime Slaughter-Acey, an epidemiolog...
Nov. 3, 2025

Stand By She: Allison Applebaum

EPISODE DESCRIPTION Allison Applebaum was supposed to become a concert pianist. She chose ballet instead. Then 9/11 hit, and she ran straight into a psych ward—on purpose. What followed was one of the most quietly revolutiona...
Oct. 27, 2025

Sick Days Not Included: Rebecca V. Nellis

EPISODE DESCRIPTION Rebecca V. Nellis never meant to run a nonprofit. She just never left. Twenty years later, she’s still helming Cancer and Careers after a Craigslist maternity-leave temp job turned into a lifelong mission....
Oct. 20, 2025

GenX Therapy With Sally Wolf

Sally Wolf is back in the studio and this time we left cancer at the door. She turned 50, brought a 1993 Newsday valedictorian article as a prop, and sat down with me for a half hour of pure Gen X therapy. We dug into VHS tra...
Oct. 15, 2025

Standard Deviation EP2: Domino Effect

Dr. Nikki Maphis didn’t just lose a grant. She lost a lifeline. An early-career Alzheimer’s researcher driven by her grandmother’s diagnosis, Nikki poured years into her work—only to watch it vanish when the NIH’s MOSAIC prog...
Oct. 13, 2025

Family Reach: The Charity America Forced Into Existence

Carla Tardiff has spent 17 years as the CEO of Family Reach, a nonprofit that shouldn’t have to exist but absolutely does—because in America, cancer comes with a price tag your insurance doesn’t cover. We talk about shame, fe...
Oct. 6, 2025

The Genes of Wrath: Jennifer J. Brown

Jennifer J. Brown is a scientist, a writer, and a mother who never got the luxury of separating those roles. Her memoir When the Baby Is Not OK: Hopes & Genes is a punch to the gut of polite society and a medical system that ...
Oct. 1, 2025

Introducing Standard Deviation EP1: The Impossible Climb

This episode of Standard Deviation features Oliver Bogler in conversation with Dr Na Zhao, a cancer biologist caught in the crossfire of science, politics, and survival. Na’s life reads like a brutal lab experiment in persist...
Sept. 29, 2025

Sorry, Your Awareness Campaign is Showing

Katie Henry has seen some things. From nonprofit bootstraps to Big Pharma boardrooms, she’s been inside the machine—and still believes we can fix it. We go deep on her winding road from folding sweaters at J.Crew to launching...